David Andrews Princess Royal – Pressure Turned Washers

Then I connected the loco and tender together and it immediately tripped out the controller and so I started a further round of troubleshooting. First I removed the bogie and after coffee I went back into our cloakroom where I have temporarily set up my test board. This room is west facing so gets sunlight mostly in an afternoon but it’s below ground level as the path outside the window is cut into the embankment and so doesn’t get quite as much natural light unless the sun is really high in the sky and it’s late afternoon.

Now one of the suggestions from Thursday nights meeting besides dig out the multimeter was to try hunting for shorts in the dark as sparks are easier to see. As I went in for further testing I forgot to turn the light on and so the room was a little gloomy. This proved to be a benefit, because as soon as I moved the bogie on it’s own, I noted a spark which I wouldn’t have seen with the light on. I noted that the guard irons were quite close to the rails and may have caused shorts on curves so they were adjusted and then further examination showed that I had fallen foul of the etched washer/hub insulation again. A further check of the trailing tuck revealed the same issue. I had a few spare insulated washers that I had turned when working on the tender but they proved to be too thick even after turning/milling down the axle bushes.

I was initially going to make some up by using a hole punch to cut holes in some styrene sheet and then snip of /file them into circles. By good fortune a video that I had seen some time ago that was lurking in my memory surfaced on my Youtube feed. After rewatching it I decided to have a go at pressure turning a number of washers all at once.

Now unless you want really big washers the process is a little wasteful because you need enough stock to hold onto to drill the centre hole. I chose to cut some 0.5mm styrene sheet into 20mm x 20mm squares aiming for a finished size of 10mm diameter. You also need some scrap to hold the parts and one of them becomes almost sacrificial.

The first step is to grip the styrene squares between the two pieces of scrap material.

Drilling blanks

I used a 1″ G clamp and a small engineers clamp to hold them all together to drill a 5mm hole through all the parts. This was to allow clearance on the 3/16 (4.7mm) axles. At this point you transfer the whole set up to the lathe before releasing the clamps.

Setting up for pressure turning
Pressure Turning Parts

I created the above set up which consists of a 22mm piece of Delrin in the collet (I had to turn a stub down to fit in a 16mm collet which is the largest ER25 collet that I have). This had a 5mm hole drill partially through it. At the tailstock end is another piece of 22mm Delrin which has had a 60 degree cone turned in the back so that it fits on a live centre then a short section turned down to 10mm to allow the tool to clear the workpiece(s) again it has a 5mm hole through it. Then a length of 3/6 rod was passed into the hole in the mandrel in the collet chuck and the parts fed onto it, before removing the clamps. Lastly the live centre is wound tightly against the parts which squash and grip all the parts for turning and locked.

The next step was to turn down the sacrificial scrap support until all the parts start to be turned. My sacrificial scrap was plastic which has a layer of aluminium either side of it and I found that the most depth of cut I could manage was 0.25mm per pass otherwise the parts started to slip. I started turning with a carbide tipped bit until it would no longer fit, then I changed to high speed steel grooving tool that I had ground for another job some time ago.

Washers well on their way.
Finished Washers

One piece of advice given in the video was to make sure that you were using a sharp tool for the final pass to help prevent the tool from rolling the edges of one part over onto the next.

Finished Washers

These are the finished parts and they are all really crisp, aside from the one that was nearest the left hand piece of scrap which had a small burr around the edge (visible at the corner of the ruler). This burr was easily scraped off with a scalpel blade.

Highly Recommended for modelling tasks – Expo 75611 Half Round/Concave Combination Plier

I bought these at Thirsk show last year or the year before and I hadn’t really used them much until recently.

I have absolutely no affiliation with Expo aside from a satisfied user of these pliers. Which I can highly recommend.

The curve of the jaws is slightly offset and I thought that this might be an issue initially but it has proved to be a design feature that has been very useful for bending wire to complex shapes.

Expo Curved Pliers
Expo Curved Pliers

Shop Made BA Tapping Guide Bush

Following my posting of the Joe Pie tap wrench on the Guild forum there was a bit of discussion on the types of tap wrenches in use and one member shared a BA tapping guide that he had bought commercially. Which I thought was a great idea for tapping holes that are too inconvenient to fit in a vice

Having been given the idea, I couldn’t resist having a go at making one this morning.

BA Tap Guide
BA Tap Guide

I even managed to use the reject first attempt at making a drawbar for the Princess which I broke during machining due to me doing the wrong order of operations. I keep one of those square plastic trays that Slaters pack their small items like plunger pick-ups horn guides etc. on my workbench and all my small offcuts of brass and nickel go into it. Once I had machined each end off it was perfect for the guide bush.

I probably over engineered it in so much as I turned the end of the bush down to 5mm for 1.6mm and drilled a 5mm hole in the flat bar which is 1.6mm thick. It was a nice tight fit but I realised that due to the bar being drawn, it wasn’t exactly flat on top and the guide sat at a slight angle. still having the coordinates in the mill from drilling the hole I used a 6mm end mill to mill a recessed flat to accommodate the bush. I checked for squareness with a 1-2-3 block and then soldered the bush in.

The hole in the bush is 3.3mm and will take my 6 -12ba taps freely but with virtually no sideplay. I also have a 14ba tap and I might at some point add another guide bush at the other end of the ‘handle’ with a smaller hole to take that.

More “Joe Pie” inspired tools

I mentally kicked myself up the backside and got the sand pipes installed a couple of days ago so yesterday I took a break and made up another couple of Joe Pie inspired tools, which he shows in use in one of his videos.

These were an additional tap spinner which has an aluminium knurled grip but a steel inner so it shouldn’t wear with use. I also made a depth stop to fit over the tap if I wish to only tap a hole to a specific depth.

Miniature Tap depth Stop

The two fit together as above, or you can use them independently as below.

Miniature Tap depth Stop

In the video, Joe showed that he made his in pairs. This is so that he could have a taper tap in one and a bottom tap in the other. Having made the initial example, I still had a bit of material left so I decided to see if I could make a combined tap spinner and depth stop.

Miniature Tap depth Stop

It turns out I could, in the image below you can see the steel core inside the aluminium grip.

Miniature Tap depth Stop
Miniature Tap depth Stop
Miniature Tap depth Stops
Remains of Die holder after using one handle and part of the casting

Just in case you are wonder what I used to make them I used the remains of one of the handles on the scarp die holder. I put it in the lathe and carefully parted the aluminium where I thought the steel roughly ended (as it happens I could have gone a little further) then having noted how securely the aluminium was attached to the steel core I realised that I could turn the remains of the casting attached to the bar into a round usable piece to make something from and the idea was born. I also have the other side to do something similar from. I can see more tools for even finer taps in the future. Unless I think of another tool to make instead.

Joe Pie Tap Handle

Those who joined me for my Gauge O Guild an Evening With Session will have heard me mention YouTuber Joe Pie as someone whom I have learned a lot of techniques and in the past I have made a couple of his shop project tools

Needing a distraction from my current endeavour which has been quite frustrating I decided to follow this video and make another small tap handle. I have previously made one similar to the one that he shows at the start of the video but I made the hole in it a bit big so it’s more suited to larger shanked taps.

As regular viewers of my posts will know I am a great believer in recycling and early this year I bought a job lot of vintage tools from eBay for the princely sum of £7.50 I really bought them for the 3MT-2MT sleeve that was included but there was also a very well made large tap wrench a Moore and wright imperial ruler, a set of sprung external calipers and a couple of 1″ die holders. Of the latter one was very well made and as I have a couple of 1″ dies will come in very useful. The second was a bit battered and had an aluminium casting for the die holder with a couple of 1/2″ steel bars as the handles. This I consigned to the useful bits box and so part of one of the handles became my material for making the miniature tap handle.

Recycled Die Holder

I popped the whole thing in the lathe and being very careful of the large lump in the middle I parted of approx 65mm (just over 2.5″) this allowed a little to tidy each end up bringing it back to a finished size of 62mm or a whisker under 2.5″ .

Then I followed Joe’s steps. I adjusted my hole dimensions to suit an M6 cap head screw so I drilled 5mm for the tapping size, 6.5mm clearance and then 10mm to recess the head of the screw. I drilled until the head was just proud of the end of the handle and then used a 10mm end mill to flatten the bottom of the hole and allow the screw to just sit inside the handle when fully screwed home.

Miniature Tap Wrench
Miniature Tap Wrench
Miniature Tap Wrench – 12BA Tap

I drilled a 4mm hole in the centre which will take up to a 4BA tap (It might take bigger but that’s the one that I measured as I mostly use smaller than that). Shown here with a 12 Ba tap inserted.

Miniature Tap Wrench

Lastly I heated it up and dropped it into some olive oil overnight to give it a nicely blued appearance – Although I had cleaned it with IPA I went back and did a small adjustment from which I didn’t clean the oil inside out again before the heating. Although I couldn’t see it, this must have created a bit of smoke, which set the workshop smoke alarm off. At least I know that it works.

Fitting a Digital ReadOut (DRO) to My Sieg SX1LP Mini Mill Part 7 (final Part)

This seems to be the only shot that I have of the X axis scale in place with it’s chip cover.

Then I mounted the display – you will note that the bottom Z Axis display is reading al zeros this is because at this point I was still awaiting the longer replacement scale.

There are quite a few options for mounting the display you can angle the bracket out from the side of the mill if you have somewhere to mount it. I chose to fix it to the bench alongside.

Then it was onto fitting the Z axis scale. This was reasonably straightforward in that I was able to fasten the scale itself directly to the rear of the column. I confess that I did initially get it slightly too low which reduced the amount that I could raise the head of the mill. Meaning that I had to redrill one of the holes higher up to get maximum height.

I was also able to finally use some of the brackets and mounting plates that came with the scales again fitting to the yoke which raises the head was reasonably straightforward.

What did find was that I had to turn some spacers from aluminium bar to get the alignment between the read head and the yoke so that it ran up and down smoothly without rubbing on the chip cover.

In conclusion, I am really happy with the DRO and now feel confident to do something similar on my lathe at some point. I do agree with Nick Baines comment that having that level of accuracy does tend to get you a little hung up on hitting 0.005 of a millimetre…

Fitting a Digital ReadOut (DRO) to My Sieg SX1LP Mini Mill Part 6

Not feeling at my best since the bank holiday I have let this thread slip a little.

So where were we?

The only possible mounting for the read head on the X axis is the end of the Y axis table. To do this I employed a couple more offcuts of aluminium angle these slightly deeper in section than that used on the Y axis read head.

 The brackets needed to fit around the Y axis lead screw so needed a bit of shaping

It did take a couple of tries to get a range of adjustment available in all the different elements of the Z shaped final mounting.

Having got this far with the mill assembled I couldn’t put off taking the mill to bits any longer to drill the end of the Y axis table.

After that it was just a case of reassembling it.

Fitting a Digital ReadOut (DRO) to My Sieg SX1LP Mini Mill Part 5

The X axis was a bit more involved in that it was harder to get access to even with the mill unbolted from the bench.

First job I found that the slots in the mounting plate were a bit tight for the M5 screws so I opened the slots with the mill.

I also milled the second slot to have vertical as well as horizontal movement as it’s important to have the scales both level horizontally and parallel to the travel of the table for the highest accuracy. As they come one slot is vertical and the other horizontal but being aluminium they are easy to modify with the mill.

After bluing up the rear face of the table I was lucky in that I had recently bought a couple basic C clamps to use for clamping one of my vices and my rivet press temporarily to the workbench when I need to. These fit quite nicely edge on in the T slot so I was able to clamp the mounting plate in position allowing me to move the table to either side of the column so that I could mark it up without removing the table at this stage.

Again, it was a bit of a squeeze but I was able to drill and tap the table without removing it.

The next task was working out how best to mount the reader but I will cover that in another post.

Fitting a Digital ReadOut (DRO) to My Sieg SX1LP Mini Mill Part 4

The next step was working out where to position the reader to get the full length of travel from it. I measured how much space the X axis scale would take up when fitted, added a couple of millimetres for clearance and used that as my forward limit. I then marked the base and drilled and tapped the base.

This is the Y axis scale fitted with it’s swarf cover and working.

Fitting a Digital ReadOut (DRO) to My Sieg SX1LP Mini Mill Part 3

I mentioned that I started with the Y axis first

There was a convenient ledge on the side of the bed casting which allowed me to add a parallel to get the backing plate up to the right height to mark for drilling the mounting holes. The 123 block is just holding it in position.

I added some engineers blue and marked the holes with a scriber then punched the centre.

Drilled, tapped and cleaned up with IPA

The backing plate in place, so far so good.

A trial fit of the scale to work out where the reader needs to be fastened to.

At this point I realised that I would need some packing pieces behind the mounting plate to make it stand off due to the useful ledge that I referred to earlier and allow the reader a clear track without being forced to run at an angle and to allow the fitting of the chip shield which didn’t quite fit when flush against the table.

I used a slitting saw to cut down some sheet material which some bar stock had been attached to to stop it being bent in the post. It’s quite interesting material in that it is two layers of thin aluminium bonded either side of some plastic material. Being layered it’s remarkably strong and light and I thought it too good to throw away so it went into my useful bits box.

You can just make out in this shot where I slotted the vertical mounting holes in the angle bracket, again to allow the reader to track without adding undue pressure. You can also see the packing strip between the mounting plate and the edge of the table.

Fitting a Digital ReadOut (DRO) to My Sieg SX1LP Mini Mill Part 2

The Warco items duly arrived and each scale, came with a main rear mounting bracket and a pair of additional mounting brackets (Shown below) and a selection of M4 and M5 cap screws.

Main mounting bracket.

Warco Glass Scales Mounting Brackets

These are the additional brackets that were spare as I only ended up using one of each along with some sections of aluminium angle which I had rescued from a set of shelves that I had dismantled.

To ensure that the job wasn’t stopped for lack of drill bits if I broke any, I put in and order to Drill Services Horley for a couple of 3.2mm and 4mm drill bits. Of course because I had them to hand I didn’t break a single drill bit.

All the holes drilled in the mill itself were done using a battery hand drill and being cast iron it was quite easy going if a bit messy.

The main mounting bracket holds the glass scale and then the read head is mounted so that when either the read head or the scale moves it reads off the distances. In my installation I have the scales mounted to the moving table axis and the read head’s fixed to the machine bed. On the Z axis this is reversed and the scale is fixed to the column of the machine and the read head moves up and down with the milling head.

I decided to start with the Y axis as being one of the shorter ones so easier to handle and definitely the easiest to access on the left side of the machine. However as soon as I took the 100mm scale out of the packaging I knew that I had made a mistake in getting a second 100mm scale for the Z axis although it would be fine if I was working with the vice or rotary table mounted on the bed it wouldn’t allow the head to come down far enough to mill anything directly mounted to the T slots of the table.

I immediately contacted Warco and explained my error and asked that since I hadn’t opened the second scale, would it be possible to return it, and swap it for a 200mm scale. They were happy to do so and would sort out any additional cost incurred once they had it back with them. I returned it to the address on the signature of the person who had sent the invoice. This proved to be a mistake as it turned out that they had moved from that address so the package was returned to me. I called them and advised that there would be a delay due to my sending it to the wrong address which was on their email.

I looked at the actual invoice and noted their new correct address and re sent it there. As good as their word they very quickly despatched the replacement and didn’t charge me a penny which despite my frustration at them not having the correct address on their correspondence I did appreciate.

Fitting a Digital ReadOut (DRO) to My Sieg SX1LP Mini Mill Part 1

For my birthday last October I received a Digital ReadOut (DRO) kit for my Sieg SX1 LP mini mill. I fitted it over a weekend last October and although I took photos as I did each stage, I haven’t yet got around to writing it up. Paul’s posts (@OzzyO) on fitting a DRO to his mill prompted me to get my finger out so that anyone who is interested will get a couple of takes on fitting them to different types of mill.

As I am not anywhere in the same league as Paul when it comes to machining, my first port of call when looking was to YouTube. To see if anyone had done a video on fitting a DRO to a similar mini mill. I was quite surprised that at that time there wasn’t any to be found (there may well be now as I haven’t looked since).

Having realised that I was essentially on my own, my first port of call was to ring Arc Euro Trade whom I bought the mill from. To ask if they did a DRO kit for my mill. I was a little surprised that they didn’t, as they seem to cater well with other accessories and tooling for the range of machines that they sell. Their recommendation was to talk to a company called Touch DRO who apparently do something suitable.

I have seen a few videos which featured Touch DRO units and confess that I was not keen on the idea. This is on the basis that they require the use of scales, which connect via Bluetooth to a tablet for the display. I spent 20 years in IT support and the last thing I want is yet another device.

Again on the basis of seeing a few videos on badged variants of the units supplied by Warco I opted to buy from them. I got a display reader, two x 100mm glass scales and one x 250mm.

The idea was that I would use one of the 100mm scales on the Y axis (front to back movement of the table for those unfamiliar with the axis terms) and the other for the Z axis which is the up and down movement of the mill head. This latter proved to be a mistake which I will elaborate upon later. The 250mm scale was to be used on the longer X axis table (which is what the LP designation of the model number refers to).

Slaters SG38CANL Gearbox – Something you need to know when buying one

Although I didn’t go to Kettering I did receive a Slaters SG38CANL Gearbox which had been bought at the show for a little job that I was asked to do.

Slaters SG38CANL Gearbox
Slaters SG38CANL Gearbox
Slaters SG38CANL Gearbox

Although I haven’t fitted it yet I foresaw no real problems until I was looking at the final drive gear and the grub screw that retains it. This is something that I pay attention to as I have been bitten before and indeed this one is a replacement for one of the former San Cheng gearboxes which required a slot cutting in the axle to allow the grub screw to screw in far enough to clear the intermediate gear above it.

Slaters SG38CANL Gearbox

Although this image is much magnified, the grub screw fitted to the gear is tiny and I had no idea what size hex key it needed and no way of measuring it. I decided to give Slaters a ring to ask what size I needed.
I rang and explained my problem and the gent that I spoke to (Martin) immediately said Oh! we should have supplied one, let me have your details and I will get one in the post. He was good to his word and from a call at 1pm on Thursday I had the hex key delivered on Friday lunchtime.

For anyone who find themselves in the same position or loses one, the size is 0.9mm

Homemade Needlepoint Oiler

Like many modellers, for years I have had one of those cheapo plastic Needlepoint oilers that are available via Amazon, eBay etc. While working on the Princess I noticed that mine appeared to be leaking. I decided to see if I could make a new reservoir and reuse the nozzle end. Using a set of metric thread pitch gauges I was struggling to determine whether the pitch was 6mm x 0.9 or 1.0mm.

I drilled and tapped a piece of nickel rod M6 x 1.0 and tested the nozzle. It didn’t fit. I attempted to rethread it M6 x 1.0 but it then sat at a jaunty angle in the end of the bar.

Before going any further, I counter bored the unthreaded end to 8mm and reamed it. I made a press fit plug from more nickel bar, pressed it in and soldered it for good measure. Then decided to make a new nozzle using only the O ring and the needle from original.

Homemade Precision Oiler
Homemade Precision Oiler
Homemade Precision Oiler

I am really pleased with how it turned out for about an hour’s work.

More shop made tools from recycled materials – Machinists Jacks

On the tool making side of things I noted while doing some milling of small brass parts that there was a bit of deflection due to the part sticking out unsupported from the end of a collet block. I had seen video on Youtube of various people making machinist jacks to support items being machined and thought I would have a go at making some.

Although I had thought about them over time, I haven’t tried making them before because I didn’t have any suitable material but after watching how one You Tuber went about it, that gave me an idea. 

Last year, my 20+ year old mitre saw gave up the ghost and before disposing of it I salvaged what I could in the way of useful materials and fixings. The biggest chunk of useful material was the slide which carried the saw backward and forwards when making the cut. This tuned out to be thick walled tube which was 30mm OD and 20mm ID. Not ideal, initially for making screw jacks, as I don’t posses any means of making threads that big (I haven’t yet attempted any single point threading but I have just bought a couple of lathe tools for the purpose so watch this space). 

Fast forward to a few weeks ago when a friend of ours was winding down his handyman business and moving house. I asked him if he came across any bit’s of useful metal as he was sorting out ready to move, that I would take them off his hands and save a trip to the tip. He was sure there would be and a couple of days later he dropped off a carrier back full of nuts bolts and studs. In amongst the contents were a a number of cut off lengths of M16 stud, each about 4 inches long fitted with two nuts. There were also a number of M16 high tensile nuts and bolts most of them still sealed in bags (that’s how I know they are M16). A combination of these formed the basis of the jacks. I turned down four of the nuts and made them a press fit into the thick walled tube. I am not sure what the tube is made of but it really does machine well. 

Machinist’s Jack from Scrap
Machinist’s Jack from Scrap

The high tensile bolt heads were a bit tougher to turn and even harder to knurl so on the second one I didn’t attempt to knurl it. I used a carbide end mill to cut scallops and then cross drilled for a pin to allow fine tuning.

Machinist’s Jack from Scrap

I couldn’t resist adding a small brass cap to stop the pin from coming out as I wind it in and out. The two locking collars were made from another standard nut, turned, knurled and then parted into two. The standard nuts which thankfully I have most of, are so much easier to machine than the high tensile ones. Finally all the parts were cleaned with acetone and blackened with Birchwood Casey.

Eclipse Scribing Block – A cleaning test to see if my earlier efforts were a fluke.

I mentioned in the post above that I also had an Eclipse scribing block. This was a gift from a friend when he was moving and I was very grateful for it. I am a little ashamed to say that aside from using it a few times with my indicator I have done very little with it.

Having discovered the WD40/Ultrasonic Cleaning method I decided to see if it was a fluke or whether it really needed the soak in vinegar first.

Because it was a test I took a few more before and after photos

Eclipse Scribing Block Pre Clean
Eclipse Scribing Block
Eclipse Scribing Block Pre Clean
Eclipse Scribing Block Pre Clean

I put all the smaller parts in the pot of WD40 and ran it through the US cleaner for half an hour. When they came out the dirt was loose, but they were not as clean as the items that had been pre-soaked in vinegar.

On the bright side, I gave them a rub over with ScotchBrite and the dirt came away easily with almost no effort. A second run through the US cleaner had them like new.

I did the main column with WD 40 and ScotchBrite which did take a bit of effort.

Eclipse Scribing Block Restored
Eclipse Scribing Block Restored
Eclipse Scribing Block Restored

And there’s Moore… another vintage tool restoration

Hello I’m Rob and I am a tool junkie… or so it might seem.

During breakfast and morning coffee I have taken to watching YouTube videos on machining, restorations etc. while Chris catches up on the news and current affairs.

While watching one such video a gent in the states who has a superb machine shop that he inherited from his Grandfather was making an adjustable indicator holder.

The resulting tool was excellent, but as it was nearing completion I couldn’t help but notice that the design was pretty much the same as some adjustable scribing blocks that I had seen on eBay while searching for Moore and Wright tools. Sure enough a search on Moore and Wright scribing block brought up several, ranging from one with some parts missing for £10 up to pristine boxed examples that were almost £100.

I found one that was complete (if rusty in places) but unboxed, that the seller was asking £15.99 plus P&P for. I put it on watch while I browsed further. As per a number of my recent experiences, by the time that I had found a couple more at sensible (to me) prices, I had received a lower price offer from the seller of £12.99.

Offer and counter offer is one of the functions of eBay that I really like and I have used it to negotiate a better price on a number of occasions. Being a tight Yorkshireman, I decided that I didn’t want to pay more than £10 plus P&P for it but knew that if I counter offered £10 that the seller would in turn counter with £11.

So I offered £8. My thinking being that the seller would then counter with £10 and sure enough they did. Result and a happy bunny.

On a side note, I think that if you enter into negotiations like this, it is only good manners to buy the object in question although I don’t always take up the reduced price initially offered as sometimes I just put items on watch out of curiosity with no intention of buying them at any price.

This is what it looked like when it arrived

Moore and Wright Adjustable Scribing Block

I stripped it all down and put all the small parts which were rusty into a pickle jar full of white vinegar (we bought a gallon of it a while back). I left them for 24 hours and then brough them out and cleaned much of them with ScotchBrite but there were lots of small parts and springs that were either difficult to hold or lot’s of small crevices etc, to get into.

Then I recalled another video that I had watched, where a gent (again in the US) with an decent sized Ultrasonic cleaner had put various objects into small pots of different detergents including one of gasoline. These containers were then placed in the US cleaner which was part filled with water and turned on with really good results.

Another recent purchase was a 5 litre bottle of WD40 so I decanted some into a small container dropped in all the small parts and gave them a 30 minute cycle with the container surrounded by water (approx. 3/4 of the way up the container and above the level of the WD40) but no additional heat. I say no additional heat because my US cleaner has a temperature dial which goes up to 20 degrees, but even with the temperature set to zero, it still gets quite warm.

I was absolutely blown away with how clean the parts came out and the added bonus of using WD40, not only does it clean, but it doesn’t send the parts rusty like detergent or other cleaners might.

Moore and Wright Scribing Block Parts Cleaned

As you can see below there is still some pitting and general wear marks, but from any kind of distance it almost looks new.

Moore and Wright Scribing Restored
Moore and Wright Scribing Block Base Restored
Moore and Wright Scribing Block Base Restored

Now as I mentioned at the beginning the plan is to use this as a dial indictor holder rather than a scribing block as I already have a nice Eclipse Scribing block that a friend gave me. More on that in another post.

This is the finished and reassembled tool fitted with a dial indicator.

Moore and Wright Scribing Block Restored

More on Callipers, or Should that be Moore

I wasn’t really sure where to post this only that I didn’t want to distract further from Adrian’s excellent scratch build with it.

Further to my post here on buying a set of Moore and Wright odd leg/Jenny Callipers second hand via eBay the next day I received a second reduced price offer on a selection of four pairs of Moore and Wright Firm Jointed Callipers for £10 plus postage so in for a penny etc. I bought them.

They arrived today and although not in quite as good a condition as the first pair that I bought they have none the less cleaned up nicely and if I spent a bit more time on them I have no doubt that I could get them back to being almost pristine.

Moore and Wright Calipers

Although they were listed as two pairs of odd leg and two pairs of external callipers. One of them had had the legs reversed and is, on the basis of where the writing is positioned in relation to the other pairs, an internal set giving me a nice range for very little investment in them.

I have included below the first pair that I bought now that they have been cleaned up. So quite unintentionally I now have a three pairs of odd legs all of which are different sizes. So I can have one pair for marking out on the lathe, a pair for the mill and a pair for the bench. 

Moore and Wright Calipers

Having seen them all together I don’t think that I will be able to resist having a further go at cleaning/rubbing them down to try to make them all as good as I can.

Odd Leg/Jenny Callipers

A recent post on scratch building a loco over on Western Thunder highlighted some of the basic tools used for scratch building. The gent in question (Adrian) posted a photo of the tools laid out on his bench. They were the usual scribe, 6in rule, dividers, set square and, a pair of odd leg callipers.

Now I am sure that I am not alone in my lazy habit of using expensive digital/analogue measuring callipers for scribing my marking out when machining…

A quick look on the web revealed that I could get some Chinese odd leg callipers for under a tenner but already possessing a set of Chinese (or indeed they might be Indian) cheap callipers which are crude to say the least I thought I would have a look on eBay for some second hand named brand alternatives to see what was/is available. Now one of my favourite Sheffield made brands are Moore and Wright so I started there.

Searching Moore and Wright odd leg callipers brought up quite a selection even some new ones. Many of the cheaper end of the buy it now examples were simply two pieces with one leg bent and the other sharpened. Having seen Adrian’s set I rather fancied a set that had a separate scribe pin. I was a bit short of time so I put a couple on watch and returned to them the day after. As it turned out it was the same seller selling both of them and overnight I had received Offers on them. The offered reduction was only a couple of quid but it meant that the better of the two pairs that I was watching came in at £10 posted.

Moore & Wright Odd Leg Calipers
Moore & Wright Odd Leg Calipers

This is what I got for my tenner. A rub over with Scotch Brite and WD40 and they will be as good as new. I am well pleased with them and will enjoy using them for many years to come

The arrow alongside the date leads me to think that they are ex military

Each time I use them I will think of Adrian, and his unbeknownst kick up the pants.

This would have been an edit but I forgot to click post reply before applying the Scotch Brite. They have cleaned up as I imagined and while doing so I found a couple of small dings which I smoothed out with a diamond stone so they are now as good as they can get.

Back on the Recycling Trail

I did a little more potentially useful recycling today. Earlier this week I discovered a brand new round file which needed a handle. The very next day we received our grocery order and in it was a new dish washing brush which meant the old one was being discarded as being worn out. As I was about to put it in the recycle box I wondered if the handle was solid as an idea was forming. I popped it in the workshop and this morning I had 10 minutes to saw the remains of the brush head off to see if the handle was solid.

Having determined that it was solid, I measured the file tang and cut the brush handle to length leaving the comfort grip. I drilled out the cut end to accept the file and a few bashes with a rubber mallet later and I now have a file that is really comfortable to use.
I have to admit that the colour is not great but I am not too fussed about that.

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